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kaitak wrote:- Etihad bringing 787s to Dublin from August
Galwayman wrote:Great to see Aeroflot back - they were probably our largest transatlantic airline at one stage , miss those cheap flights to Mexico and Havana ...
AmricanShamrok wrote:I’d love to see the SU schedule from SNN at it’s peak.
OA260 wrote:AmricanShamrok wrote:I’d love to see the SU schedule from SNN at it’s peak.
What year would you be looking for? I have a collection of SU timetables boxed up somewhere. Not sure what years though. I was lucky enough to fly SU SNN-SVO-DEL in J back in the day they had a mini hub at SNN. Bagged the A310/B767 ( Which was new ) / IL86 which was the highlight. All for around IEP800!
AmricanShamrok wrote:Galwayman wrote:Great to see Aeroflot back - they were probably our largest transatlantic airline at one stage , miss those cheap flights to Mexico and Havana ...
I’d love to see the SU schedule from SNN at it’s peak. Can’t seem to find anything of substance online. If anyone has this maybe they might be so kind as to post?
[quote= “jamie2k9”]EI couldn't go earlier and DL departure is in line with a sizeable portion of their European JFK network and one assumes connections are rather good mid afternoon for them out of JFK.
It is a shame United have dropped the early departure.
Surly hours will be adjusted to reflect the change of flight schedules?
shamrock321 wrote:Was lucky enough to fly Club World LHR-HKG last week sat beside a lovely Irish man travelling for business. He said for his business the CX direct fares just aren’t competitive! Any thoughts on this? High demand?
shamrock321 wrote:Was lucky enough to fly Club World LHR-HKG last week sat beside a lovely Irish man travelling for business. He said for his business the CX direct fares just aren’t competitive! Any thoughts on this? High demand?
aireuropef100 wrote:Hi had a rather annoying arrival into DUB on Friday which was a new experience for me but may be the norm. Arrived on EI flight from LGW into Terminal 1 gate 312 with the normal walk to T2 but we kept on being stopped in T1 waiting for people disembarking "real" T1 flights so they could come down the steps and enter T1, it happened twice with a Swiss flight and one other (cannot remember which airline) but with the continuous stopping in the 300's pier it took nearly 30 mins to reach T2. I have to say the staff although doing their job came across as rude "Zurich stop there London move on" and vice versa, really bizarre and annoying. I am surprised by the number of T2 fights now arriving at T1 that there is no better system in place for segregating passengers as i am sure a family from the Swiss Zurich flight got mixed up with the EI London flight at least the bags were already going around the carousel by the time we got there.
Also why still after being "live" for months do only half of the e-gates for passports work in T2 or were open for use at 11am - it was quicker to use the old style passport desks
OA260 wrote:“it should be financed, owned and operated by the Dublin Airport Authority”.
leghorn wrote:OA260 wrote:“it should be financed, owned and operated by the Dublin Airport Authority”.
The DAA who are already subject to the whims of the unions.
subtext being that if any would-be politician in Dublin North who wants to get elected tries to open up the airport to non-unionised staff then they'll meet with the full force of the Union heavies in Dublin Airport.
JAmie2k9 wrote:https://twitter.com/EoinBearla
"BREAKING: Blow for #Cork Airport tonight with confirmation from Norwegian Airlines that it’s suspending its Cork-Boston/Providence route for the winter. Launched last July, "
Speculation that SNN may lose Providence over winter as well but nothing official yet. Some might remember they cancelled the planned increase ex DUB over the summer as well and remained at 5 weekly.
EI will operate JFK year round from SNN taking advantage of UA exiting however BOS will now be suspended between (Jan-Mar).
LTenEleven wrote:JAmie2k9 wrote:https://twitter.com/EoinBearla
"BREAKING: Blow for #Cork Airport tonight with confirmation from Norwegian Airlines that it’s suspending its Cork-Boston/Providence route for the winter. Launched last July, "
Speculation that SNN may lose Providence over winter as well but nothing official yet. Some might remember they cancelled the planned increase ex DUB over the summer as well and remained at 5 weekly.
EI will operate JFK year round from SNN taking advantage of UA exiting however BOS will now be suspended between (Jan-Mar).
That's quite a disappointment for Cork.
JAmie2k9 wrote:I would be against privately owned terminals, it will be the passenger that loses out overall long term while the operator and airlines win with bigger profits.
ClassicLover wrote:JAmie2k9 wrote:I would be against privately owned terminals, it will be the passenger that loses out overall long term while the operator and airlines win with bigger profits.
How do you figure passengers losing out here?
The logic is that the passenger charges at an airport which has competing terminals will be lower as they will both want the business, so airlines will play them off each other to get the best deal.
Having the best deal at airport infrastructure means you can offer lower fares than competitors, capture more market share and make more profits. In its simplest form.
JAmie2k9 wrote:Well I didn't see airlines at DUB offer lower fares since charges have been reduced, if anything air fares are rising not dropping. Carriers are benefiting from lower charges and incentives for adding capacity.
Competing terminals will end up with sub standard infrastructure, reality is someone will have to foot the bill for infrastructure one way or another.
ClassicLover wrote:JAmie2k9 wrote:Well I didn't see airlines at DUB offer lower fares since charges have been reduced, if anything air fares are rising not dropping. Carriers are benefiting from lower charges and incentives for adding capacity.
Competing terminals will end up with sub standard infrastructure, reality is someone will have to foot the bill for infrastructure one way or another.
Which charges reduced and when at DUB? I wasn't aware this had happened, but would love to find out when it did and what changed. Sounds interesting!
It's an interesting view that you believe privately constructed terminals would be substandard when they would have to meet the same building codes and regulations as everything else built in the Republic. With regards to your other comment - of course someone foots the bill, that's what the passenger charges are for.
JAmie2k9 wrote:Runway moment charges have dropped, passenger departure charges have dropped (based on stands used) and while its a small cost per head it adds up for big carriers. Then there is the summer/winter charges variations which the daa introduced a few years ago. Charges should be on website.
There is the incentive schemes so while DUB may have carried over 2 million more passengers in 2017, each airlines who carrier extra passengers get a major discount the following year. There is the pre 06.00 (up to 50% discount) passenger and remote stand discounts etc which are rather lucrative. Aer Lingus/Ryanair are not going to charge less departing at 05.50 instead of 06.00 but they will save money!!
My substandard infrastructure comment was probally badly worded. I meant from an overall passenger experience with both operators under such pressure to reduce costs the level of infrastructure would suffer rather than safety/regulatory aspect of it.
EI202 wrote:I see another Qatar A332 (A7-ACE) arrived in DUB this morning, is it just on return to lessor or is it another one for EI?
AmricanShamrok wrote:
ClassicLover wrote:Like, the charges have reduced by what 10-15c max per passenger?
Orlaithdub wrote:AmricanShamrok wrote:
It surprises me that not even one new route announcement out of Dublin on the short haul market was made... Hopefully in May with the launch of new atlantic routes, a few short haul ones are considered too...
Eirules wrote:OA260 wrote:VIDEO: Dublin to New York on an Aer Lingus 747 in 1975
This is what it was like flying from Dublin to New York on an Aer Lingus 747 Jumbo Jet in 1975.
This brilliant footage was first broadcast by RTE and perfectly captures the excitement and glamour of cross-Atlantic air travel in the 1970s.
http://www.dublinpeople.com/news/norths ... 7-in-1975/
Really good video, mad to see the twin towers in the background at the end
dstc47 wrote:Cork "fury" over Norwegian decision.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingn ... 35844.html
Another public body is needed also.
EI564 wrote:ClassicLover wrote:Like, the charges have reduced by what 10-15c max per passenger?
Every little bit helps. Sure, it is not particularly significant but most services in Ireland are seeing an increase in charges, so its nice that something is going down at least!
The problem I see with an independent terminal is that its not a particularly efficient operation. If T3 handled 10 or 15mppa, then that leaves a huge hole in T1 and T2, which would presumably result in huge job cuts etc. Someone is spending a huge amount of money to replace something that we already have. That is just waste. And what kind of terminal do they build? A low cost terminal, which means Ryanair has to move in there. Or an expensive terminal to get Aer Lingus (not sure could they build another US CBP)? Whatever, airlines don't really end up with a choice in terminals. Their choice will be decided by the kind of terminal that is built from the start.
If T3 was under the same operator, T1 and T2 would still end up with a hole but they wouldn't need to build as big a facility (T3 can be modular, gradually expanded as required). We would end up with a bit of headroom rather than a massive hole. And staff can move from T1/T2 also as required. So not the same sort of job cuts. There is also overall co-ordination (which is important as Dublin becomes a bigger hub). There would be a co-ordinated plan for the airport, rather than one operator doing one thing and another operator doing another. That just sounds chaotic to me.
In fact, they might not have to build a T3 for years, as incremental expansions of T1 and T2 could keep the airport on top of terminal capacity. The only thing that seems to be needed soon is more stand capacity.
And from what I have seen reported, charges in Dublin are quite low compared to other airports in Europe. And actually, when T2 opened, the staff there were employed under lower costs than T1.
Weirdly, if you have 8 terminals and open 1 more then it is not as big a problem. Its just a small change. Going from 2 to 3 is where there is an issue. And across Europe, having one overall airport co-ordinator has no exception as far as I can see.
ClassicLover wrote:JAmie2k9 wrote:When it comes to the infrastructure of private terminals, just look to JFK. The airlines are responsible for their own terminals there and things don't seem to fall apart.